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Pinpointing which jobs are the country’s least popular can tell you something about the direction an economy is going.

That’s because industries that once thrived might have lost ground to technological or other advances and have few job openings. Others with many opportunities for employment might be growing.

Of course, jobs can be unpopular or uncommon for many reasons. On the TV show “Dirty Jobs,” host Mike Rowe is seen farming deer for urine and relocating beavers—clearly, employment that’s not for everyone.

Other jobs might require years of education or training or be limited to certain geographical areas.

Stacker ranked the 100 least popular jobs in America, based on their total employment and using May 2022 data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Only detailed job categories were included in the analysis. Every position’s number of total workers in the United States is listed alongside its average annual wage and average hourly wage.

Read on to see if you hold one of the least popular jobs in the country.

A woman pulls out documents in a file cabinet.

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#100. Archivists

– Total nationwide employment: 7,230
– Median hourly wage: $28.19
– Median annual wage: $58,640

Heavy machinery workers in a discussion.

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#99. Helpers–extraction workers

– Total nationwide employment: 6,910
– Median hourly wage: $20.73
– Median annual wage: $43,110

A worker uses a welding torch on a piece of metal.

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#98. Layout workers, metal and plastic

– Total nationwide employment: 6,890
– Median hourly wage: $28.01
– Median annual wage: $58,260

Railroad workers check the track for repairs.

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#97. Signal and track switch repairers

– Total nationwide employment: 6,880
– Median hourly wage: $39.09
– Median annual wage: $81,300

Two colleagues look at a statistical analysis.

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#96. Statistical assistants

– Total nationwide employment: 6,710
– Median hourly wage: $23.50
– Median annual wage: $48,880

A worker dyes some fabric blue.

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#95. Textile bleaching and dyeing machine operators and tenders

– Total nationwide employment: 6,640
– Median hourly wage: $15.71
– Median annual wage: $32,680

A man on a treadmill is monitored by a doctor.

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#94. Exercise physiologists

– Total nationwide employment: 6,580
– Median hourly wage: $24.69
– Median annual wage: $51,350

A woman at a desk works on a computer.

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#93. Desktop publishers

– Total nationwide employment: 6,560
– Median hourly wage: $23.04
– Median annual wage: $47,910

A California Fish & Wildlife badge on the side of a car.

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#92. Fish and game wardens

– Total nationwide employment: 6,530
– Median hourly wage: $28.61
– Median annual wage: $59,500

Workers bore a hole in a metal piece.

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#91. Drilling and boring machine tool setters, operators, and tenders, metal and plastic

– Total nationwide employment: 6,470
– Median hourly wage: $20.41
– Median annual wage: $42,450

Two men work on an architectural model of a house.

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#89. Architecture teachers, postsecondary

– Total nationwide employment: 6,420
– Median hourly wage: Not available
– Median annual wage: $93,220

A technician works on a furnace blower fan.

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#89. Cooling and freezing equipment operators and tenders

– Total nationwide employment: 6,420
– Median hourly wage: $20.62
– Median annual wage: $42,890

A man uses a tool to tune a piano.

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#88. Musical instrument repairers and tuners

– Total nationwide employment: 6,330
– Median hourly wage: $18.34
– Median annual wage: $38,150

A patient waits for a dental procedure.

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#87. Orthodontists

– Total nationwide employment: 6,310
– Median hourly wage: $83.83
– Median annual wage: $174,360

Workers at an oil drilling site.

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#86. Extraction workers, all other

– Total nationwide employment: 6,290
– Median hourly wage: $24.81
– Median annual wage: $51,600

A hydrologist takes a water sample.

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#85. Hydrologists

– Total nationwide employment: 6,270
– Median hourly wage: $41.34
– Median annual wage: $85,990

A farm worker checks on cows eating food.

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#84. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers

– Total nationwide employment: 6,250
– Median hourly wage: $36.42
– Median annual wage: $75,760

Researchers examine a tide pool.

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#83. Environmental science teachers, postsecondary

– Total nationwide employment: 6,240
– Median hourly wage: Not available
– Median annual wage: $83,040

An agricultural worker in a wheat field.

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#82. Agricultural workers, all other

– Total nationwide employment: 6,100
– Median hourly wage: $17.17
– Median annual wage: $35,720

A forest worker looks at a tree while holding a chainsaw.

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#81. Forest and conservation workers

– Total nationwide employment: 6,080
– Median hourly wage: $15.51
– Median annual wage: $32,270

Molten metal being poured into a casting.

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#80. Pourers and casters, metal

– Total nationwide employment: 6,070
– Median hourly wage: $21.67
– Median annual wage: $45,070

A worker getting gear checked for radioactivity.

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#79. Nuclear technicians

– Total nationwide employment: 5,880
– Median hourly wage: $48.28
– Median annual wage: $100,420

Workers installing clay tiles on a roof.

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#78. Helpers–roofers

– Total nationwide employment: 5,790
– Median hourly wage: $17.80
– Median annual wage: $37,020

Colorful costumes on hangars.

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#77. Costume attendants

– Total nationwide employment: 5,730
– Median hourly wage: $23.30
– Median annual wage: $48,470

Three people on large stairway outside a building.

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#76. Political scientists

– Total nationwide employment: 5,660
– Median hourly wage: $61.55
– Median annual wage: $128,020

A DJ uses a digital turntable.

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#75. Disc jockeys, except radio

– Total nationwide employment: 5,640
– Median hourly wage: $21.34
– Median annual wage: Not available

A woman with a headset in front of a computer.

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#74. Nuclear power reactor operators

– Total nationwide employment: 5,450
– Median hourly wage: $55.71
– Median annual wage: $115,870

A ballet instructor works with students.

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#73. Choreographers

– Total nationwide employment: 5,400
– Median hourly wage: $24.52
– Median annual wage: $50,990

Photography equipment on a wood table.

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#72. Photographic process workers and processing machine operators

– Total nationwide employment: 5,380
– Median hourly wage: $17.44
– Median annual wage: $36,280

A woman sharpens a tool.

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#71. Tool grinders, filers, and sharpeners

– Total nationwide employment: 5,320
– Median hourly wage: $20.16
– Median annual wage: $41,940

A patient in a chair getting dental work.

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#70. Dentists, all other specialists

– Total nationwide employment: 5,250
– Median hourly wage: $102.28
– Median annual wage: $212,740

A wheel loader works in a mine.

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#69. Loading and moving machine operators, underground mining

– Total nationwide employment: 5,210
– Median hourly wage: $30.73
– Median annual wage: $63,920

A proofreader works on documents.

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#68. Proofreaders and copy markers

– Total nationwide employment: 5,120
– Median hourly wage: $21.83
– Median annual wage: $45,410

A woman writes in a notebook.

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#67. Correspondence clerks

– Total nationwide employment: 4,970
– Median hourly wage: $18.61
– Median annual wage: $38,700

A teacher helps a student with a laptop.

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#65. Anthropology and archeology teachers, postsecondary

– Total nationwide employment: 4,930
– Median hourly wage: Not available
– Median annual wage: $85,000

A man gives a ticket to an entertainment attendant.

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#65. Entertainment attendants and related workers, all other

– Total nationwide employment: 4,930
– Median hourly wage: $13.11
– Median annual wage: $27,260

A view of the casino floor at Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas.

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#64. Gambling managers

– Total nationwide employment: 4,800
– Median hourly wage: $38.80
– Median annual wage: $80,710

A craft artist works on a piece of jewelry.

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#63. Craft artists

– Total nationwide employment: 4,760
– Median hourly wage: $18.34
– Median annual wage: $38,150

Part of a building is imploded by explosives.

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#62. Explosives workers, ordnance handling experts, and blasters

– Total nationwide employment: 4,710
– Median hourly wage: $27.24
– Median annual wage: $56,670

A logging worker cuts up a tree.

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#61. Fallers

– Total nationwide employment: 4,530
– Median hourly wage: $23.64
– Median annual wage: $49,160

A librarian helps a customer.

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#60. Library science teachers, postsecondary

– Total nationwide employment: 4,330
– Median hourly wage: Not available
– Median annual wage: $76,370

An oral surgeon works on a patient.

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#59. Oral and maxillofacial surgeons

– Total nationwide employment: 4,290
– Median hourly wage: #
– Median annual wage: #

A sander being used on a wood floor.

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#58. Floor sanders and finishers

– Total nationwide employment: 4,270
– Median hourly wage: $22.14
– Median annual wage: $46,060

A woman on a headset talking with a customer.

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#57. Telephone operators

– Total nationwide employment: 4,030
– Median hourly wage: $18.43
– Median annual wage: $38,330

A casket sits with flowers on it.

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#55. Embalmers

– Total nationwide employment: 3,950
– Median hourly wage: $23.99
– Median annual wage: $49,910

A log grader at work in a log yard.

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#55. Log graders and scalers

– Total nationwide employment: 3,950
– Median hourly wage: $20.37
– Median annual wage: $42,370

A rock splitter works at a quarry.

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#54. Rock splitters, quarry

– Total nationwide employment: 3,910
– Median hourly wage: $22.12
– Median annual wage: $46,010

A commercial diver works on a project.

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#53. Commercial divers

– Total nationwide employment: 3,860
– Median hourly wage: $32.84
– Median annual wage: $68,300

A woman works on a math problem.

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#52. Mathematical science occupations, all other

– Total nationwide employment: 3,840
– Median hourly wage: $34.47
– Median annual wage: $71,700

A gas compressor operator checks the system.

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#51. Gas compressor and gas pumping station operators

– Total nationwide employment: 3,740
– Median hourly wage: $28.84
– Median annual wage: $59,990

A therapy aid works with a child.

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#50. Occupational therapy aides

– Total nationwide employment: 3,710
– Median hourly wage: $17.82
– Median annual wage: $37,060

A marine worker looks through binoculars.

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#49. Bridge and lock tenders

– Total nationwide employment: 3,690
– Median hourly wage: $22.73
– Median annual wage: $47,280

A flat bed hauler carries a manufactured home.

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#48. Manufactured building and mobile home installers

– Total nationwide employment: 3,630
– Median hourly wage: $17.70
– Median annual wage: $36,820

A pile of logs await processing.

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#47. Logging workers, all other

– Total nationwide employment: 3,490
– Median hourly wage: $22.65
– Median annual wage: $47,110

A piece of fabric being sewed by hand.

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#46. Sewers, hand

– Total nationwide employment: 3,440
– Median hourly wage: $15.16
– Median annual wage: $31,530

A parked transit police vehicle.

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#45. Transit and railroad police

– Total nationwide employment: 3,370
– Median hourly wage: $33.25
– Median annual wage: $69,150

Two people discuss a model of a car.

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#44. Model makers, metal and plastic

– Total nationwide employment: 3,350
– Median hourly wage: $27.70
– Median annual wage: $57,620

A geography teacher points to Africa on a map.

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#43. Geography teachers, postsecondary

– Total nationwide employment: 3,340
– Median hourly wage: Not available
– Median annual wage: $81,920

A heavy machine drives a pile at a construction site.

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#42. Pile driver operators

– Total nationwide employment: 3,290
– Median hourly wage: $30.92
– Median annual wage: $64,310

A fertility doctor consults with a couple.

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#41. Genetic counselors

– Total nationwide employment: 3,220
– Median hourly wage: $43.26
– Median annual wage: $89,990

A dosimetrist gives radiation treatment to a patient.

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#40. Medical dosimetrists

– Total nationwide employment: 3,190
– Median hourly wage: $62.01
– Median annual wage: $128,970

A woman with a laptop sits in front of a bookcase.

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#39. Historians

– Total nationwide employment: 3,120
– Median hourly wage: $31.03
– Median annual wage: $64,540

A motorboat operator steers his watercraft.

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#38. Motorboat operators

– Total nationwide employment: 3,110
– Median hourly wage: $19.92
– Median annual wage: $41,430

An apparel patternmaker measures some fabric.

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#37. Fabric and apparel patternmakers

– Total nationwide employment: 3,070
– Median hourly wage: $29.00
– Median annual wage: $60,320

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#36. Sociologists

– Total nationwide employment: 2,980
– Median hourly wage: $47.40
– Median annual wage: $98,590

A makeup artist gets a performer ready.

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#35. Makeup artists, theatrical and performance

– Total nationwide employment: 2,970
– Median hourly wage: $46.33
– Median annual wage: $96,370

A worker repairs a shoe.

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#34. Shoe machine operators and tenders

– Total nationwide employment: 2,960
– Median hourly wage: $15.89
– Median annual wage: $33,060

Decorative urns sit on display.

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#33. Crematory operators

– Total nationwide employment: 2,930
– Median hourly wage: $19.40
– Median annual wage: $40,360

A hydrologic technician writes in a notebook.

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#32. Hydrologic technicians

– Total nationwide employment: 2,920
– Median hourly wage: $28.06
– Median annual wage: $58,360

A rail worker walks on rail station platform.

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#31. Rail yard engineers, dinkey operators, and hostlers

– Total nationwide employment: 2,680
– Median hourly wage: $27.09
– Median annual wage: $56,340

Farmers in a conversation near some cows.

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#30. Animal scientists

– Total nationwide employment: 2,520
– Median hourly wage: $33.36
– Median annual wage: $69,390

A worker guides a hoist and winch operator.

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#29. Hoist and winch operators

– Total nationwide employment: 2,440
– Median hourly wage: $28.34
– Median annual wage: $58,950

A man teaches a class with students.

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#28. Family and consumer sciences teachers, postsecondary

– Total nationwide employment: 2,420
– Median hourly wage: Not available
– Median annual wage: $76,440

Workers clear limbs and debris in the forest.

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#27. Forest fire inspectors and prevention specialists

– Total nationwide employment: 2,290
– Median hourly wage: $23.13
– Median annual wage: $48,110

Workers operate heavy machinery in a mine.

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#26. Underground mining machine operators, all other

– Total nationwide employment: 2,270
– Median hourly wage: $30.86
– Median annual wage: $64,180

A worker fixes a stretch of rail.

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#25. Rail transportation workers, all other

– Total nationwide employment: 2,240
– Median hourly wage: $20.33
– Median annual wage: $42,280

A worker pours molten metal into a cast.

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#24. Patternmakers, metal and plastic

– Total nationwide employment: 2,230
– Median hourly wage: $26.43
– Median annual wage: $54,970

Two men hanging wallpaper.

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#23. Paperhangers

– Total nationwide employment: 2,220
– Median hourly wage: $21.60
– Median annual wage: $44,930

A man sets up a high-powered telescope.

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#22. Astronomers

– Total nationwide employment: 2,160
– Median hourly wage: $61.70
– Median annual wage: $128,330

A worker repairs a digital camera.

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#21. Camera and photographic equipment repairers

– Total nationwide employment: 2,120
– Median hourly wage: $21.18
– Median annual wage: $44,060

Parts of a math problem appear on a piece of paper.

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#19. Mathematicians

– Total nationwide employment: 2,070
– Median hourly wage: $53.90
– Median annual wage: $112,110

A model with a hat poses for a photo.

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#19. Models

– Total nationwide employment: 2,070
– Median hourly wage: $20.73
– Median annual wage: $43,130

A projectionist at work in a theater.

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#18. Motion picture projectionists

– Total nationwide employment: 1,900
– Median hourly wage: $16.04
– Median annual wage: $33,360

A wristwatch being fixed.

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#17. Watch and clock repairers

– Total nationwide employment: 1,880
– Median hourly wage: $23.25
– Median annual wage: $48,370

A heavy machine attaches large bolts the ceiling of a mine.

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#16. Roof bolters, mining

– Total nationwide employment: 1,700
– Median hourly wage: $28.95
– Median annual wage: $60,210

An agricultural worker checks soil makeup.

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#15. Agricultural engineers

– Total nationwide employment: 1,500
– Median hourly wage: $40.03
– Median annual wage: $83,260

Workers polish a floor.

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#14. Terrazzo workers and finishers

– Total nationwide employment: 1,460
– Median hourly wage: $25.16
– Median annual wage: $52,330

A man looks at a rock in a desolate landscape.

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#13. Geographers

– Total nationwide employment: 1,360
– Median hourly wage: $42.74
– Median annual wage: $88,900

Workers listen to a coworker at a meeting.

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#12. Industrial-organizational psychologists

– Total nationwide employment: 1,280
– Median hourly wage: $66.96
– Median annual wage: $139,280

Students examine soil and plant life.

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#10. Forestry and conservation science teachers, postsecondary

– Total nationwide employment: 1,270
– Median hourly wage: Not available
– Median annual wage: $96,500

A worker feeds milk to a baby goat.

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#10. Animal breeders

– Total nationwide employment: 1,270
– Median hourly wage: $21.79
– Median annual wage: $45,320

A woman with a headset sits in front of a computer.

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#9. Communications equipment operators, all other

– Total nationwide employment: 1,240
– Median hourly wage: $22.20
– Median annual wage: $46,180

Heavy machinery doing dredging work in a river.

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#8. Dredge operators

– Total nationwide employment: 940
– Median hourly wage: $22.64
– Median annual wage: $47,090

A pediatric surgeon at work.

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#7. Pediatric surgeons

– Total nationwide employment: 780
– Median hourly wage: #
– Median annual wage: #

A worker makes a model out of wood.

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#6. Model makers, wood

– Total nationwide employment: 720
– Median hourly wage: $22.57
– Median annual wage: $46,940

A chef prepares a dish to serve.

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#5. Cooks, private household

– Total nationwide employment: 610
– Median hourly wage: $18.54
– Median annual wage: $38,570

Heated refractory material at foundry.

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#4. Refractory materials repairers, except brick masons

– Total nationwide employment: 580
– Median hourly wage: $24.30
– Median annual wage: $50,550

Farm laborers working in a field.

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#3. Farm labor contractors

– Total nationwide employment: 550
– Median hourly wage: $23.72
– Median annual wage: $49,330

A man assembles a timing device.

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#2. Timing device assemblers and adjusters

– Total nationwide employment: 370
– Median hourly wage: $20.33
– Median annual wage: $42,290

A worker makes a measurement on a piece of wood.

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#1. Patternmakers, wood

– Total nationwide employment: 330
– Median hourly wage: $21.29
– Median annual wage: $44,290

 

Data reporting by Paxtyn Merten. Story editing by Jeff Inglis. Copy editing by Robert Wickwire. 

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mesh conference goes deep on AI, with experts focusing in on training, ethics, and risk

The mix of topics is a major part of the appeal. So is the opportunity to have genuine conversations.

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The mix of topics is a major part of the appeal. So is the opportunity to have genuine conversations with senior leaders, and doers, across so many industries for two days.

Day one of the mesh conference was all about navigating innovation, privacy policies, and diversity in a tech-driven world, and day two was all about artificial intelligence (AI) and its impact on media, marketing, business and society.

AI is everywhere, but this day hit different. 

“I sat beside a marketer this morning who said he came to mesh because he was interested in the topics, but that he also knew lots about the subject matter so he wasn’t sure how much he’d take away,” said mesh attendee, Sarah Coleman who travelled from Calgary to see mesh in Toronto. 

“But after a full day of talks, he said to me that he was totally surprised by the cross-industry perspectives shared, and he walked away from the first day with thoughts he had never considered. For me, that’s the biggest value of mesh and it’s why I travelled across the country for my second mesh conference this year.”

Day two opened up with a frank discussion about the training of artificial intelligence (AI) and data sources with Elena Yunusov, AI strategy and marketing leader with the Human Feedback Foundation. 

Yunusov recently started the foundation to crowdsource the human feedback layer that’s missing from private AI models. Private models will continue and make decisions we won’t agree with, she said, but open source initiatives offer the chance for more innovation and better-informed applications.

“We should have more say about how AI is shaped and developed,” said Yunusov. 

There are a handful of models influencing us in ways we may not understand. But the Human Feedback Foundation is a small, but mighty open-source project trying to make AI less toxic and more empathetic. 

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Use human feedback to bring the human voice back into data

After opening remarks, Yunusov continued the AI discussion with Darnel Moore, founder and CEO of Distinct.ly, who sees technology as a tool to connect with people. “We need a way for people to see each other and for businesses to see those people,” said Moore. 

Businesses just want to see the data point — not its context. But cognitive bias tells us that time, place, and situation influences people’s decisions, so the data means nothing without context. 

Moore said somewhere along the line people became a bug, rather than a feature, for businesses and that needs to change. 

“It’s important to get yourself out of the loop of data and buzzwords,” he Moore. 

It’s hard when you’re driving hard and fast not to attach yourself to buzzwords. But it’s not about pitching, selling, or moving your product — it’s about connecting with people.

Both Yunusov and Moore expressed puzzlement around the anxiety many people have around AI handling routine tasks. 

“Machinery is levelling human beings up from the mundane,” said Moore. People can now be more creative and learn in ways that weren’t possible before, he added.

“We have agency in this and the tools we never had before to get us to the next stages of that journey,” added Yunusov. 

We’re living through a bit of a reckoning in tech, she notes. Things are going to change, but how they change should be up to us. 

“Change is part of the human experience and we’re just doing it with different tools now,” said Yunusov. 

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AI is a very divisive concept

Rika Nakazawa, global vice-president with NTT’s New Ventures and Innovation team, joined mesh fresh from COP28’s World Climate Summit in Dubai where there were two camps — one that believed AI is going to be the end of our ability to attain sustainability goals, and the other that thought it would bring the dawn of a new horizon. 

Amy Peck, founder and CEO of EndeavorXR, agreed. On one end of the spectrum, it’s the great saviour. We’ll be able to leverage it and achieve all our goals, she said. On the other end is the doom and gloom. 

Peck said business leaders need to start understanding data better, urging for bias-free data to be the foundation for AI training algorithms. We’re equal in our humanity, said Peck, so we must learn to embrace our differences rather than vilify them.

“AI is an overnight success, 80 years in the making,” said Nakazawa. “There’s nothing artificial about artificial intelligence.” 

It’s all made — binary code is mimicking our brain. 

“We have to retrain ourselves to work with AI and not just hand over our tasks to AI,” Peck said.

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We needed to manage and prevent food waste

For this event, the mesh conference partnered with Second Harvest to ensure unused food served at lunch would not go to waste. Using Second Harvest technology, unused packaged lunches were donated to a local charity.

“It’s the eHarmony of food,” joked Lori Nikkel, CEO of Second Harvest during a fireside discussion. 

Nikkel was joined by Winston Rosser, VP of Food Rescue Operations at Second Harvest, who demoed the technology built to help conquer food insecurity and food redistribution.

Rosser explained that the app connects a variety of donors, from small retailers to major grocery stores, with local, non-profit charities who need food. Before the platform was built, huge trucks were sent to pick up 20 lbs of food from a grocer and take it across the city — an option that was not sustainable. Now, donors can easily connect with one of more than 61,000 charities via the platform.

Rosser also shared some startling stats:

  • 58% of all the food produced in Canada is lost or wasted, mostly ending up in landfill.
  • 3.9 million Canadians are food insecure.
  • Only 4% of food businesses were donating food.

Since the launch of the app, Second Harvest has flipped everything on its head. In 2016 the organization rescued nine million pounds of food, but after the app was deployed, that number skyrocketed — in 2022, nearly 75 million pounds of food was rescued in 2022. Last year Second Harvest kept food worth $234 million out of landfill. 

When asked why there’s so much food waste to begin with, Nikkel offered a sober response: “We don’t value food,” she said, adding that we’ve commoditized food to the point where we don’t value it like we used to. An example: many people will buy food in a two-for-one deal even if they don’t need it, and oftentimes it’s simply thrown out.

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Adoption requires sponsorship within the organization

Afternoon discussions on day two of the mesh conference also looked at laggard industries, and professionals who can be resistant to change.

Colleen Pound, founder and CEO of Proxure, and Mary Jane Dykeman, managing partner at INQ Law, talked about the difficult task of integrating AI in law and healthcare — two industries that can be averse to technological innovation.

“Their aversion creates a lot of white space to work in,” said Pound, adding that progress looks like evolution rather than revolution. 

Dykeman agreed, adding that change in situations like this often takes a foothold when a series of low-risk initiatives are the starting point. Ultimately, they can lead to larger transformations.

In addition, privacy and data security are major issues for both industries that need to be managed first, Pound said. Data management is the starting point.

“Better data and better processes drive better business outcomes,” Pound said.

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AI is what you make it

The day’s closing panel included a conversation on AI in media, featuring mesh co-founder and media pundit, Mathew Ingram.

Ingram joked that he would be terrified if he was starting his journalism career today. As the chief digital writer for the Columbia Journalism Review, Ingram noted that distributing information is easier today, but distributing disinformation is also easier.

“The quality of the disinformation doesn’t matter,” Ingram said, saying people believe disinformation because they want to believe it. 

“A nine-year-old could think of a more plausible conspiracy theory than some of the ones I’ve seen people believe,” he said. 

Chris Hogg, president and founder of the content marketing firm Digital Journal Group (DJG), said he sees B2B content marketing rolling back to what high-quality journalism used to offer. Hogg said success can now require businesses to produce less content, and instead focus on quality and distribution to stand out and drive results.

The fireside discussion also looked at the risks AI poses to the media industry. 

AI may not always be able to make things better, but it has great applications as a technology to support journalists. 

“It’s a tool that you can use and do things that help you and are valuable,” said Ingram, noting that transcription, story idea generation, and automating mundane tasks are big benefits offered by AI.

While there are considerable risks with OpenAI’s accuracy, deep fakes, and fake AI content, Ingram said the technology is still important.

“I’m a big believer in the power of individuals to change things,” he said. “There are things we thought would be inconsequential, but have changed the world, for better or worse.”

Join us next year in Calgary for the mesh conference, June 11-12, 2024. The two-day event then returns to Toronto the week of October 21, 2024.

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mesh conference hits Toronto this week — here’s what’s in store

This week, innovators and digital transformation leaders from across North America will gather at the Symes in Toronto for the mesh conference.

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This week, innovators and digital transformation leaders from across North America will gather at the Symes in Toronto for the mesh conference. With a focus on four threads — business, media and technology, society, and marketing — mesh will connect, share, and inspire others to think about changing how we think, organize, operate and behave.

The mesh conference differs from your typical transformation and innovation event in part thanks to two simple rules: no slide decks and canned presentations, and no pay-to-play sessions. The result? Lively sessions where the audience is encouraged to engage with speakers throughout. 

The theme for this edition is “Human-powered, tech-enabled.” Speakers and attendees will explore the pivotal role of technologies in augmenting human capabilities to improve workplace diversity, enhance competitiveness, and even turn back time on human-induced environmental damage through “de-extinction”. 

The full mesh speaker lineup

Over the course of two days, more than 20 speakers will take part in the Toronto event on December 6-7, 2023. The full run-of-show, with speakers and sessions, includes:

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Dr. Michael Geist (Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-Commerce Law, University of Ottawa) and Tyler Chisholm (clearmotive marketing)

Canada’s digital policy has gone off the rails. What should the engaged community be doing?

Dr. Michael Geist (Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-Commerce Law, University of Ottawa) will join Tyler Chisholm (clearmotive marketing) to discuss the Meta ban on news, Google’s newly announced search policy around news (backed by $100 million for the industry) and podcasting regulations. Dr. Geist will explain why he has described the law as a “total policy disaster” and an “epic policy blunder” by the government. On the heels of his testimony before the CRTC, he’ll share his insights on what we might expect next and what engaged communities should be doing. Gain a greater understanding of the policy landscape and its impact on how we live and work. 


Marissa McNeelands (Toast) and Amber Mac

Leveraging AI to create a more diverse and inclusive tech industry

Marissa McNeelands (CEO of Toast) will be joined by Amber Mac to discuss how her company works to eliminate gender bias in tech hiring. TOAST, Canada’s first female-focused talent partner, uses a unique AI-driven recruitment tool to help organizations diversify their tech teams and support women in tech careers. This session will explore the role that data and algorithms could play in fostering a more inclusive workforce.


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Natalie Black (Mia), Liberty White (CHOZEN MEDIA), Prieeyya Kaur Kesh (Mia), and Anne-Marie Enns (Mia)

AI, Creativity, and Inclusivity: Empowering Tomorrow’s Marketing Leaders

This panel explores how AI and creativity can foster economic empowerment through tech skills training and career growth. The panel will delve into the impact of AI on marketing, the importance of diversity and inclusivity in its design, and the role of continuous education. The session aims to understand economic empowerment through tech skills training, career growth, and a nurturing environment. Features Natalie Black (Mia), Liberty White (CHOZEN MEDIA), Prieeyya Kaur Kesh (Mia), and Anne-Marie Enns (Mia)


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Dana O’Born (Council of Canadian Innovators), Tracey Bodnarchuk (Canada Powered by Women) and Stuart MacDonald (Narrative Fund)

Innovating for Canada’s Competitive Edge

Join Dana O’Born (Council of Canadian Innovators), Tracey Bodnarchuk (Canada Powered by Women), and Stuart MacDonald (Narrative Fund) as they discuss the future of Canadian competitiveness through the lens of innovation and transformation. This session will explore the technology and energy industries and why innovation is a team sport. Looking at both growing and transitioning sectors, they will explore how Canada can leverage its strengths and overcome challenges to maintain a competitive edge in the global market and create a sustainable, prosperous future. 


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Ben Lamm (CEO of Colossal) and Chris Hogg (mesh conference / DJG / Digital Journal)

Why ‘de-extinction’ is vital to fighting climate change

Join Ben Lamm (CEO of Colossal) and Chris Hogg (DJG) for a riveting discussion on de-extinction and its role in combating climate change. Could the woolly mammoth, the Tasmanian tiger, and the dodo bird be agents of change? Learn about Colossal’s groundbreaking work in reviving extinct species and how this contributes to biodiversity restoration. We will delve into the technology behind halting extinction, preserving animal DNA, and reversing human-induced environmental damage. Explore how de-extinction can restore lost ecosystems, increase biodiversity, and contribute to environmental sustainability. This session promises to spark insightful discussions on the future of biotech and environmental conservation. 


Darnel J. Moore (Distinct.ly) and Elena Yunusov (Human Feedback Foundation)

AI in Marketing: Magic Wand, Double-Edged Sword or Pandora’s Box

Darnel Moore (Distinct.ly) will be joined by Elena Yunusov (Human Feedback Foundation) to explore customer marketing strategies in the context of AI. We will delve into how AI can personalize content at scale and analyze customer behaviour while highlighting the importance of human insight and intervention in marketing. Have we crossed the line when the computer tracks, predicts and influences customer behaviours? Where and when is it best to deploy machine learning and AI in your marketing strategy? At what point in the process is it still best for humans to drive the process? How do we ensure that AI supports the customer journey and that the tools we deploy do not undermine an authentic, transparent relationship? Join us as we aspire to find where the balance is best placed between AI tools and human intention, avoid repeating the mistakes of social media and aim to harness the power of AI responsibly.


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Amy Peck (EndeavorXR) and Rika Nakazawa (NTT).

The Almighty AI: Friend or Foe for the Sustainability Agenda?

While headlines are dominated by the thrill and alarm of the rise in Artificial Intelligence applications and utility across industries, they have overshadowed another existential hot topic: Sustainability and ESG. This fireside chat will examine AI’s role in the Sustainability agenda for communities, businesses, and national states, and in what ways leaders across sectors are taking action today for impact tomorrow. We might even imagine new kinds of futures where artificial and collective intelligence collide in this unique chat forum. Features Amy Peck (EndeavorXR) and Rika Nakazawa (NTT).


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Lori Nikkel (CEO, Second Harvest), Winston Rosser (VP, Second Harvest) and Mark Evans (Marketing Spark)

Amplifying Community Actions: Case Study of the Second Harvest Food Rescue App

Lori Nikkel (CEO of Second Harvest) and Winston Rosser (VP, Second Harvest) will join Mark Evans (Marketing Spark) to discuss their innovative approach to combating food waste and insecurity, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic and its aftermath. They’ll share how their technology platform has facilitated partnerships between food donors and non-profits, enabling them to scale the redistribution of surplus food from coast to coast to coast. Learn about the increased efficiency that allowed them to connect 5,600 donors with 3,400 non-profits–rescuing 24 million pounds of food, averting 79.3 million pounds of greenhouse gases, and saving 13.2 billion litres of water in the last year alone. 


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Colleen Pound (Proxure), Mary Jane Dykeman (INQ Law) and David Potter (Vog)

AI & Procurement: The Intersection of Innovation, Risk and Law

Join Colleen Pound (CEO of Proxure), Mary Jane Dykeman (INQ Law) and David Potter (Vog) for an enlightening session on the transformative role of AI and technology in professional services. They will delve into how these tools are levelling the playing field, particularly in procurement and legal services. Colleen, with her expertise in automation and predictive analytics, will shed light on procuring AI solutions. Mary Jane, a seasoned health and data lawyer, will discuss the legal and risk management aspects of AI adoption. This session promises a rich blend of insights from the tech startup and healthcare sectors.


Mathew Ingram (Columbia Journalism Review) and Chris Hogg (mesh)

What the chaos at OpenAI, misinformation, and fake AI journalists mean for our future

Join Mathew Ingram (CJR) and moderator Chris Hogg as they explore the chaos that has been the world of AI this year. From executive shakeups, to fast-vs-slow AI, to misinformation and deepfakes, this session will explore the current state of AI and what it means for our future.


Digital Journal is an official media partner of the mesh conference. Learn more and get tickets to the mesh conference, happening December 6-7 in Toronto, at meshconference.com

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AI is taking the world by storm — unless you’re in finance, Gartner survey finds

61% of finance leaders aren’t using AI and Gartner explores why in their latest survey.

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We’ve seen plenty of studies, industry updates, and tech investments pointing to an AI revolution in virtually every industry, especially IT and customer service. 

But one Gartner survey shows a lag in AI adoption by the finance industry. The technology research and consulting firm conducted a survey of 130 finance leaders and noticed “limited” AI implementations:

“Despite AI’s potential, most finance functions’ AI implementations have remained limited. As they begin to chart out a plan for how best to prioritize that additional investment, CFOs should partner with their finance leadership teams to compare their current progress against their peers’ and identify concrete recommendations from early adopters on how best to accelerate AI use in their function.”

  • Marco Steeker, Senior Principal, Gartner Finance Practice

Here are a few highlights from the report:

Most finance leaders using AI are only in early stages

Gartner found that only 8% of finance organizations are using AI in production, which is much less than the 20% in other areas like HR, real estate, and procurement. This speaks to finance being over two times behind in AI use compared to the rest of the departmental functions. Additionally, a mere 1% of finance leaders say they’re in the scaling phase.

Finance leaders prioritize other initiatives over AI

The survey asked respondents why they haven’t used AI in primary finance functions, and the majority of answers included these four reasons:

  • Lack of technical capabilities
  • Low-quality data
  • Insufficient use cases
  • Other priorities

The latter reason felt the most problematic within finance leaders’ perspectives: 

“What this perspective underappreciates is that AI can be a critical enabler of finance leaders’ “other priorities,” such as more dynamic financial planning or close and consolidation efficiency.”

  • Marco Steeker, Senior Principal, Gartner Finance Practice

A recent Dye & Durham report suggests AI could help stabilize the financial sector as interest rates and economic indicators sway by offering efficiency, cost reduction, and accuracy — but the hesitancy remains. Their report also found that a majority of skilled professionals, including lawyers, doctors, and financiers, express discomfort with incorporating AI into their services. 

Existing AI use in finance varies across different functions

The Gartner survey found that finance departments don’t use AI for one main function across the board. Instead, it’s use cases are varied and include: 

  • Accounting support
  • Anomaly/error detection
  • Financial analysis

Learn more about the Gartner survey here

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